Apr 22 2007, 04:04 PM
Yup...how much do photographers get paid in Malaysia? Some ppl say photographers dont get paid a lot...i wonder if that's true? What bout photojournalism?
QUOTE(Wen Sen @ Apr 22 2007, 04:04 PM) 
Yup...how much do photographers get paid in Malaysia? Some ppl say photographers dont get paid a lot...i wonder if that's true? What bout photojournalism?
Official photog or not, all photog in Malaysia are paid peanuts! There seem to be no respect for our local photographers - with the exception of the lucky ones who are shooting for the royalties! These photogs are paid in big bucks!
Even like Fashion designers..Dato' Bernard C, Datuk Tom Abang Saufi, Bill Keith, Zang Toi, Melinda Ooi..all r laughing all the way to the banks...as their bank account swelled..but not photogs!
Not too mention make up artist....also very well paid....any yet us poor photog...sigh...
As for photojournalism .... I m not too sure about it...but let me ask my old fren Karam Singh of TV3...
Local press photographers earn enough to support a non-working wife and 2 kids (until Form 6), maintaining a brand new Myvi, Proton Saga or Wira plus a home (apartment, single storey or double-link) in the outskirts of KL/PJ. All dreams of owning hit-tech DSLRs and lenses on his own go out the windows for a married male photog unless his wife is working too and earns more than he does. A bachelor will of course, gets to enjoy the privilleges of buying/owning the latest gadgets.
Shooting events and weddings full-time will earn more than a typical local press photographer.
Those who manage to join KL-based foreign news agencies will be paid more than any local press photogs employed by the local newspapers.
The real money in photography lies with commercial and advertising - enough to buy a Lamborghini Diablo CASH if one is not so crazy over other hi-tech gadgets that come along the way.
Shooting events and weddings full-time will earn more than a typical local press photographer.
Those who manage to join KL-based foreign news agencies will be paid more than any local press photogs employed by the local newspapers.
The real money in photography lies with commercial and advertising - enough to buy a Lamborghini Diablo CASH if one is not so crazy over other hi-tech gadgets that come along the way.
Oh boy! How can this be? I mean photographers invest so much on equipments and this is what we get? Sad.
It is hard for Malaysian photographers to survive.
It is hard for Malaysian photographers to survive.
Tip: Get a high-income job and keep photography as a hobby.
Get to buy whatever gear you want (although I must emphasize equipment is not substitute for skill), and no bossy clients telling you what or how to to shoot (if you've got time for it that is).
Of course, not everyone can have a high income job and still have plenty of time for himself, so... g'luck!
Get to buy whatever gear you want (although I must emphasize equipment is not substitute for skill), and no bossy clients telling you what or how to to shoot (if you've got time for it that is).
Of course, not everyone can have a high income job and still have plenty of time for himself, so... g'luck!
QUOTE(KohJL @ Apr 22 2007, 07:43 PM)
Tip: Get a high-income job and keep photography as a hobby.
Get to buy whatever gear you want (although I must emphasize equipment is not substitute for skill), and no bossy clients telling you what or how to to shoot (if you've got time for it that is).
Of course, not everyone can have a high income job and still have plenty of time for himself, so... g'luck!
Get to buy whatever gear you want (although I must emphasize equipment is not substitute for skill), and no bossy clients telling you what or how to to shoot (if you've got time for it that is).
Of course, not everyone can have a high income job and still have plenty of time for himself, so... g'luck!
Commercial photogs make the most, but it's also the most boring work, up to 30-50k per job..some even more.
After that is weddings if you can do the turnover, 3-4 per month you can make more than most mid-level managers.
After that is weddings if you can do the turnover, 3-4 per month you can make more than most mid-level managers.
there goes my dream of being a photographer/photojournalist. I'm currently taking journalism and i heard journalists don't get paid much too but it has been my ambition since i was fifteen. I guess you gotta love what you do.
Actually, my real dream is becoming a rockstar. Maybe I'll work on that. Hehehe...
Actually, my real dream is becoming a rockstar. Maybe I'll work on that. Hehehe...
QUOTE(kkiram @ Apr 23 2007, 12:48 PM)
there goes my dream of being a photographer/photojournalist. I'm currently taking journalism and i heard journalists don't get paid much too but it has been my ambition since i was fifteen. I guess you gotta love what you do.
Actually, my real dream is becoming a rockstar. Maybe I'll work on that. Hehehe...
Actually, my real dream is becoming a rockstar. Maybe I'll work on that. Hehehe...
me too...my ambition now is to become a photographer or photojournalist when i'm older. but now it seems that photography can only be the most interesting hobby for me coz i cant be expecting my family to eat "grass" everyday.....if u know what i mean
To be a successful photographer or a photojournalist, there must be a passion to it. Monetary compensation is secondary. Both of you are better suited to other careers not involving photography and keep the indulgement in the medium as a hobby lar.
Succesful photojournalists like James Nachtwey and James Stanmeyer (of National Geographic) are 48 and 80 years old bachelors respectively. They love their jobs and have the passion for photography. The reason they are not married is because they do not want to be burden with family commitments.
Both of you guys are yet to step into the world of photography as a career and already talking abt monetary compensation - both of you won't go that far lar if photography is the chosen field as a career.
Succesful photojournalists like James Nachtwey and James Stanmeyer (of National Geographic) are 48 and 80 years old bachelors respectively. They love their jobs and have the passion for photography. The reason they are not married is because they do not want to be burden with family commitments.
Both of you guys are yet to step into the world of photography as a career and already talking abt monetary compensation - both of you won't go that far lar if photography is the chosen field as a career.
QUOTE(ProDiGiTaL @ Apr 23 2007, 02:56 PM)
To be a successful photographer or a photojournalist, there must be a passion to it. Monetary compensation is secondary. Both of you are better suited to other careers not involving photography and keep the indulgement in the medium as a hobby lar.
Succesful photojournalists like James Nachtwey and James Stanmeyer (of National Geographic) are 48 and 80 years old bachelors respectively. They love their jobs and have the passion for photography. The reason they are not married is because they do not want to be burden with family commitments.
Both of you guys are yet to step into the world of photography as a career and already talking abt monetary compensation - both of you won't go that far lar if photography is the chosen field as a career.
Succesful photojournalists like James Nachtwey and James Stanmeyer (of National Geographic) are 48 and 80 years old bachelors respectively. They love their jobs and have the passion for photography. The reason they are not married is because they do not want to be burden with family commitments.
Both of you guys are yet to step into the world of photography as a career and already talking abt monetary compensation - both of you won't go that far lar if photography is the chosen field as a career.
hahaha........i guess. But not really....if i'm a bachelor, i might consider going full time. Anyway, i'm still young and when i'm older my ambition might change..who knows? However my love towards photography will not vanish that easily....
QUOTE(Wen Sen @ Apr 23 2007, 03:02 PM)
hahaha........i guess. But not really....if i'm a bachelor, i might consider going full time. Anyway, i'm still young and when i'm older my ambition might change..who knows? However my love towards photography will not vanish that easily....
My young friend, I am so happy to read this from you. Yes, photography is such a great hobby that no one can take it away from oneself. You may change your job, company, girlfriend or even wife but photography will always be a part of you as long as you live that passion!
Guys don't let this ruin your dreams..
A photog to me is not one that can take good photos.. But one that can take good photos with a passion
A photog to me is not one that can take good photos.. But one that can take good photos with a passion
QUOTE(- m i n g @ Apr 23 2007, 11:29 PM)
Guys don't let this ruin your dreams..
A photog to me is not one that can take good photos.. But one that can take good photos with a passion
A photog to me is not one that can take good photos.. But one that can take good photos with a passion
Wah lau ehhh h... hear ye, hear ye ... another well said and wise words from our youngest photog here. Totally agree a hundred percent with him.
here in kch most of us are taking it as hobby even those who cover events is just to buy new things to play with..hehe. yala ohh if married maybe tied down ahh..kim teoh say each time petronas outing also few months...maybe thts why he still single ahh..hehe. yes most important thing is have passion to take the pic. lens is the most expensive thing for me..hehe. all those fixed prime lens price..wow..hehe.
Those so call married to their job are so can be in photography
cause they literlly need full time on it and no committment on family.
But still some pro photog that are full time still find time to paktho (dating) and happily married (salute to them), but then
need full understanding from their wife/husband and children on the time he/she spend time with their cam hunting for compo than their family
cause they literlly need full time on it and no committment on family.
But still some pro photog that are full time still find time to paktho (dating) and happily married (salute to them), but then
need full understanding from their wife/husband and children on the time he/she spend time with their cam hunting for compo than their family
wah, i though all photographer get pay well
wat bout those photographer from western country?
do they get paid well?
wat bout those photographer from western country?
do they get paid well?
QUOTE(C Boey @ Apr 24 2007, 04:52 PM)
wah, i though all photographer get pay well
wat bout those photographer from western country?
do they get paid well?
wat bout those photographer from western country?
do they get paid well?
Why don't you ask them! Kee kee kee ....
QUOTE(C Boey @ Apr 24 2007, 04:52 PM)
wah, i though all photographer get pay well
wat bout those photographer from western country?
do they get paid well?
How to get paid well in a country where the majority has an el cheapo mentality towards goods and services (if can get free much better) ar?wat bout those photographer from western country?
do they get paid well?
People are known to reject those quoting RM2-3K per job wedding photogs in favour of RM300 el cheapo ones.
Some companies even press down the prices to a mere RM450 for shooting an event despite the photog quoting RM800 for the job. So you tell me how is a photographer expecting to get paid what he/she is worth with so many el cheapo clients out there?
This el cheapo mentality is not restricted to clients looking for photographers but also among photographers and amateurs alike - if there are seminars and workshops being organised by some institutes or photographic equipment manufacturers, and fees are being charged for interested participants, one can be sure the responses would be very low. At best, there would be some trying to lobby their contacts in the industry for free tickets/vouchers or even recommendations to enter the seminars and workshops for free.
The 3 times-per-year PC Fair is held on the basis of free admission, hence the packed-like-sardines atmosphere during Sat n Sun. Should the organiser decide to levy an RM5 per adult admission, we can be sure the number of visitors would be reduced to an insignificant number.
QUOTE(ProDiGiTaL @ Apr 24 2007, 06:05 PM)
QUOTE(C Boey @ Apr 24 2007, 04:52 PM)
wah, i though all photographer get pay well
wat bout those photographer from western country?
do they get paid well?
How to get paid well in a country where the majority has an el cheapo mentality towards goods and services (if can get free much better) ar?wat bout those photographer from western country?
do they get paid well?
People are known to reject those quoting RM2-3K per job wedding photogs in favour of RM300 el cheapo ones.
Some companies even press down the prices to a mere RM450 for shooting an event despite the photog quoting RM800 for the job. So you tell me how is a photographer expecting to get paid what he/she is worth with so many el cheapo clients out there?
This el cheapo mentality is not restricted to clients looking for photographers but also among photographers and amateurs alike - if there are seminars and workshops being organised by some institutes or photographic equipment manufacturers, and fees are being charged for interested participants, one can be sure the responses would be very low. At best, there would be some trying to lobby their contacts in the industry for free tickets/vouchers or even recommendations to enter the seminars and workshops for free.
The 3 times-per-year PC Fair is held on the basis of free admission, hence the packed-like-sardines atmosphere during Sat n Sun. Should the organiser decide to levy an RM5 per adult admission, we can be sure the number of visitors would be reduced to an insignificant number.
well, malaysians are famous for their "kiasu" mentality. Everything wants it to be free. Anyway, i do some searching and found out that western country's photographers have pay wage of $15000-$30000 (as in pounds). I guess the western appreciate photography more than Asians...........
QUOTE(Wen Sen @ Apr 24 2007, 10:33 PM)
QUOTE(ProDiGiTaL @ Apr 24 2007, 06:05 PM)
QUOTE(C Boey @ Apr 24 2007, 04:52 PM)
wah, i though all photographer get pay well
wat bout those photographer from western country?
do they get paid well?
How to get paid well in a country where the majority has an el cheapo mentality towards goods and services (if can get free much better) ar?wat bout those photographer from western country?
do they get paid well?
People are known to reject those quoting RM2-3K per job wedding photogs in favour of RM300 el cheapo ones.
Some companies even press down the prices to a mere RM450 for shooting an event despite the photog quoting RM800 for the job. So you tell me how is a photographer expecting to get paid what he/she is worth with so many el cheapo clients out there?
This el cheapo mentality is not restricted to clients looking for photographers but also among photographers and amateurs alike - if there are seminars and workshops being organised by some institutes or photographic equipment manufacturers, and fees are being charged for interested participants, one can be sure the responses would be very low. At best, there would be some trying to lobby their contacts in the industry for free tickets/vouchers or even recommendations to enter the seminars and workshops for free.
The 3 times-per-year PC Fair is held on the basis of free admission, hence the packed-like-sardines atmosphere during Sat n Sun. Should the organiser decide to levy an RM5 per adult admission, we can be sure the number of visitors would be reduced to an insignificant number.
well, malaysians are famous for their "kiasu" mentality. Everything wants it to be free. Anyway, i do some searching and found out that western country's photographers have pay wage of $15000-$30000 (as in pounds). I guess the western appreciate photography more than Asians...........
wah. that coool.
that means if i am good, i mean as in i am confident in myself for taking good photograph
wat i do is migrate and live there to earn a better living by doing wat i love: photography
QUOTE(C Boey @ Apr 24 2007, 11:01 PM)
QUOTE(Wen Sen @ Apr 24 2007, 10:33 PM)
QUOTE(ProDiGiTaL @ Apr 24 2007, 06:05 PM)
QUOTE(C Boey @ Apr 24 2007, 04:52 PM)
wah, i though all photographer get pay well
wat bout those photographer from western country?
do they get paid well?
How to get paid well in a country where the majority has an el cheapo mentality towards goods and services (if can get free much better) ar?wat bout those photographer from western country?
do they get paid well?
People are known to reject those quoting RM2-3K per job wedding photogs in favour of RM300 el cheapo ones.
Some companies even press down the prices to a mere RM450 for shooting an event despite the photog quoting RM800 for the job. So you tell me how is a photographer expecting to get paid what he/she is worth with so many el cheapo clients out there?
This el cheapo mentality is not restricted to clients looking for photographers but also among photographers and amateurs alike - if there are seminars and workshops being organised by some institutes or photographic equipment manufacturers, and fees are being charged for interested participants, one can be sure the responses would be very low. At best, there would be some trying to lobby their contacts in the industry for free tickets/vouchers or even recommendations to enter the seminars and workshops for free.
The 3 times-per-year PC Fair is held on the basis of free admission, hence the packed-like-sardines atmosphere during Sat n Sun. Should the organiser decide to levy an RM5 per adult admission, we can be sure the number of visitors would be reduced to an insignificant number.
well, malaysians are famous for their "kiasu" mentality. Everything wants it to be free. Anyway, i do some searching and found out that western country's photographers have pay wage of $15000-$30000 (as in pounds). I guess the western appreciate photography more than Asians...........
wah. that coool.
that means if i am good, i mean as in i am confident in myself for taking good photograph
wat i do is migrate and live there to earn a better living by doing wat i love: photography
that was what i was thinking of.
Bachelors can do it better, if U get what I mean!!
QUOTE(DigiGoliath @ Apr 24 2007, 11:38 PM)
Bachelors can do it better, if U get what I mean!!
u mean i could spend more time on my camera instead of my family
and also spend less cash on my family, instead i can buy better toys?
and it would be easier if you decide that Uprooting yourself is the way to go ....
QUOTE(DigiGoliath @ Apr 24 2007, 11:55 PM)
and it would be easier if you decide that Uprooting yourself is the way to go ....
perhaps, total salute to those who can cope with their family well + manage to spend much time on photography
Can try to 'cari makan' for some wedding dinner or party( as a part time), can earn about RM 2-3 hundrad per night, but make sure you shot well, your client won't go and held this kind of dinner second time....
RM200-300 per night?!
For my first shoot, I got RM400!
For my first shoot, I got RM400!
QUOTE(KohJL @ Apr 25 2007, 11:04 AM)
RM200-300 per night?!
For my first shoot, I got RM400!
For my first shoot, I got RM400!
haha...you got good paid
Normally charge RM 600-700 including printing of photo..... most of the client are recommended by frens, all 'niaw' kaki....
i think can combine la...be a fulltime photographer and own a photoshop (not adobe la)...
can ar?
can ar?
Its a matter of time malaysia will be like international country where they will aware of professional photographers. Notice that ... malaysia is picking up photography more drasticlay then i say 3 years ago hehehehehe. I see studio has been pop up like mashroom now days (those hard to get mashroom type heheheh)
No doubt that some offering wedding price can go lower to 300-450 it dosent matter because you cannot educate this party pooper spoiling the market but the best is to educate the market . I will not be surprice that photographers will have a union one day (or do they? hehehe ) Photography is an art .. so how creative you are pays you the effort.
As for you two young people lah .. my unlce is a professional photographer.. and he is a photojournalist in MALAYSIA.. he has 3 kids and always move around with camera. Well sometimes eh.. wait i mean ALL THE TIME you need to plan properly, your life is a book... so write the book carefully. Eventhough my uncle dont drive a Bimmer or Merc or Proton Perdana but .. he is happy with what he has.
Lastly .. who said that being photographer cannot be rich. Business is business no matter what it is ... with your creativity, you also need to find creativity in finding your own market. Do not look into wedding or product only (which most of photogs always think about) to me .. its like "DUIT ROKOK" the real money is out there.. you need to find it.. if you think you are in the box.. WIDER THE BOX or better.. THINK OUT OF THE BOX
No doubt that some offering wedding price can go lower to 300-450 it dosent matter because you cannot educate this party pooper spoiling the market but the best is to educate the market . I will not be surprice that photographers will have a union one day (or do they? hehehe ) Photography is an art .. so how creative you are pays you the effort.
As for you two young people lah .. my unlce is a professional photographer.. and he is a photojournalist in MALAYSIA.. he has 3 kids and always move around with camera. Well sometimes eh.. wait i mean ALL THE TIME you need to plan properly, your life is a book... so write the book carefully. Eventhough my uncle dont drive a Bimmer or Merc or Proton Perdana but .. he is happy with what he has.
Lastly .. who said that being photographer cannot be rich. Business is business no matter what it is ... with your creativity, you also need to find creativity in finding your own market. Do not look into wedding or product only (which most of photogs always think about) to me .. its like "DUIT ROKOK" the real money is out there.. you need to find it.. if you think you are in the box.. WIDER THE BOX or better.. THINK OUT OF THE BOX
QUOTE(eismeal @ Apr 25 2007, 08:19 PM)
Its a matter of time malaysia will be like international country where they will aware of professional photographers. Notice that ... malaysia is picking up photography more drasticlay then i say 3 years ago hehehehehe. I see studio has been pop up like mashroom now days (those hard to get mashroom type heheheh)
No doubt that some offering wedding price can go lower to 300-450 it dosent matter because you cannot educate this party pooper spoiling the market but the best is to educate the market . I will not be surprice that photographers will have a union one day (or do they? hehehe ) Photography is an art .. so how creative you are pays you the effort.
As for you two young people lah .. my unlce is a professional photographer.. and he is a photojournalist in MALAYSIA.. he has 3 kids and always move around with camera. Well sometimes eh.. wait i mean ALL THE TIME you need to plan properly, your life is a book... so write the book carefully. Eventhough my uncle dont drive a Bimmer or Merc or Proton Perdana but .. he is happy with what he has.
Lastly .. who said that being photographer cannot be rich. Business is business no matter what it is ... with your creativity, you also need to find creativity in finding your own market. Do not look into wedding or product only (which most of photogs always think about) to me .. its like "DUIT ROKOK" the real money is out there.. you need to find it.. if you think you are in the box.. WIDER THE BOX or better.. THINK OUT OF THE BOX
No doubt that some offering wedding price can go lower to 300-450 it dosent matter because you cannot educate this party pooper spoiling the market but the best is to educate the market . I will not be surprice that photographers will have a union one day (or do they? hehehe ) Photography is an art .. so how creative you are pays you the effort.
As for you two young people lah .. my unlce is a professional photographer.. and he is a photojournalist in MALAYSIA.. he has 3 kids and always move around with camera. Well sometimes eh.. wait i mean ALL THE TIME you need to plan properly, your life is a book... so write the book carefully. Eventhough my uncle dont drive a Bimmer or Merc or Proton Perdana but .. he is happy with what he has.
Lastly .. who said that being photographer cannot be rich. Business is business no matter what it is ... with your creativity, you also need to find creativity in finding your own market. Do not look into wedding or product only (which most of photogs always think about) to me .. its like "DUIT ROKOK" the real money is out there.. you need to find it.. if you think you are in the box.. WIDER THE BOX or better.. THINK OUT OF THE BOX
yeap....agree
anyway the best thing is to "do what u like and get paid"
do photographer mind if they get low paid? afterall the are doing wat they like
do photographer mind if they get low paid? afterall the are doing wat they like
Great achievements are driven by passion.
But one has to survive you know.... especially to feed the family!
So at least expect a fair pay.
I fully agree with eismeal. Don't do it just to earn a living and to survive.
Think out of the box and make it a great & successful business. Then you will have time to take pride in your work and do creative things.
But one has to survive you know.... especially to feed the family!
So at least expect a fair pay.
I fully agree with eismeal. Don't do it just to earn a living and to survive.
Think out of the box and make it a great & successful business. Then you will have time to take pride in your work and do creative things.
yes....agree too
QUOTE(yzai11 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:40 AM)
Can try to 'cari makan' for some wedding dinner or party( as a part time), can earn about RM 2-3 hundrad per night, but make sure you shot well, your client won't go and held this kind of dinner second time....
Sorry ahhh friend, have to be a bit crude here but if you do not get anything from RM1200 or at least more than RM1500 for a wedding shoot which will take your whole day, I will suggest you are better off not even charging any money and spoiling other photogs 'rice-bowl'. Might as well just do it for free - to get that experience you needed.
Covering a wedding is not just a point and shoot thingy brother. It involves your creativity and your talent. It is your ideas on what, how and when to shoot that sweet moment in their life. For RM2-3 hundred, better you ask them tambah sikit, go buy a compact camera and get a friend or relative to shoot it themselves FREE some more! get to keep the camera as one of their wedding momento too
Don't lah go intrude into other hard working cari makan photographers arena only to spoil the market? Remember, you may just be spoiling the photog market by charging so low and cheap. And is it really worth your time and effort just to get up so early in the monring to go cover the whole days' event?
Sorry ahhh .... just wondering and my satu sen thoughts here.
QUOTE(C Boey @ Apr 25 2007, 10:05 PM)
anyway the best thing is to "do what u like and get paid"
do photographer mind if they get low paid? afterall the are doing wat they like
do photographer mind if they get low paid? afterall the are doing wat they like
Let me answer to your question here: - YES, I do what I like - photography and it is my passion. And I get paid for it - hard earned and good money too.
Do I mind if I get paid low: YES again here! I may be doing what I like best in my life but I sure am not going to do a job that is paid so low that even 10 of them is not enough to pay for my camera equipments and cari makan expenses!
Bro ... personally, I will not encourage taking any job that are not paid well. I would rather drop them instead of encouraging people to treat us photog as rubbish and think they can get away by paying for our services and creativity with peanuts! Eismeal is right, maybe there should be a photographers union set up in Malaysia! Kee kee kee .....
QUOTE(PaulCKK @ Apr 25 2007, 11:49 PM)
QUOTE(C Boey @ Apr 25 2007, 10:05 PM)
anyway the best thing is to "do what u like and get paid"
do photographer mind if they get low paid? afterall the are doing wat they like
do photographer mind if they get low paid? afterall the are doing wat they like
Let me answer to your question here: - YES, I do what I like - photography and it is my passion. And I get paid for it - hard earned and good money too.
Do I mind if I get paid low: YES again here! I may be doing what I like best in my life but I sure am not going to do a job that is paid so low that even 10 of them is not enough to pay for my camera equipments and cari makan expenses!
Bro ... personally, I will not encourage taking any job that are not paid well. I would rather drop them instead of encouraging people to treat us photog as rubbish and think they can get away by paying for our services and creativity with peanuts! Eismeal is right, maybe there should be a photographers union set up in Malaysia! Kee kee kee .....
yup. Set up a photographer's organization that protects our rights.
QUOTE(Wen Sen @ Apr 25 2007, 11:59 PM)
QUOTE(PaulCKK @ Apr 25 2007, 11:49 PM)
Eismeal is right, maybe there should be a photographers union set up in Malaysia! Kee kee kee .....
yup. Set up a photographer's organization that protects our rights. QUOTE(ProDiGiTaL @ Apr 26 2007, 04:46 AM)
Local photographic societies were set up for this purpose but over the decades (as with all the local associations/clubs in M'sia), they ended up protecting the interests/pockets of the office bearers than the interest of the members.
Why is this phase so DAMN familiar
There is one alumni that somehow and somewhat lah... want to setup their own website (in thing mah)... some members volunteer to do it for FREE... but those in power to be (all with those nice titles one)... say... CANNOT... in the end... ended up to the tune of nearly a quarter of a million (and mind you, this is not in our neighbouring countries' currency or " downstairs' " hell notes) KITA BOLEH!
I think this is very tricky question pertaining how much a photographer paid. There aren't any standard in defininig that how much should a photographer get paid to cover events or wedding. I believe most of the forumer here treat photography as a passion, if our passion could turn into income to support & justify our expensive equipment, that's the extra.
In terms of pay, how could we define it how much we should get paid over an event or wedding? Some say RM2000 per day event, some RM600 is fine. But have any think that why this guys charge me almost triple than the other quoted me? Maybe a pro vs amateur situation. Some willing to pay thousands for an wedding event, b'cos what he get from this guys is guranteed since he is a pro, in this business blah blah blah years. The other only the amateur just into photography a year ago.
I do agree that lower charges by some photog might spoiled the market, but we have to remember 1 thing that, what he paid is what he get. The result is not guranteed.
Why not we just keep continue enjoy our passion & don't care how much we get paid for a job (those not doing photography for living), we would get better. Along the way, just build up your own portfolio & treat the pay as a token, maybe one day you are confident enough to quit your job & indulge fully on this passion. Congrat!!!!
Just my 2 cents...
In terms of pay, how could we define it how much we should get paid over an event or wedding? Some say RM2000 per day event, some RM600 is fine. But have any think that why this guys charge me almost triple than the other quoted me? Maybe a pro vs amateur situation. Some willing to pay thousands for an wedding event, b'cos what he get from this guys is guranteed since he is a pro, in this business blah blah blah years. The other only the amateur just into photography a year ago.
I do agree that lower charges by some photog might spoiled the market, but we have to remember 1 thing that, what he paid is what he get. The result is not guranteed.
Why not we just keep continue enjoy our passion & don't care how much we get paid for a job (those not doing photography for living), we would get better. Along the way, just build up your own portfolio & treat the pay as a token, maybe one day you are confident enough to quit your job & indulge fully on this passion. Congrat!!!!
Just my 2 cents...
QUOTE(DesertRay @ Apr 26 2007, 11:32 AM)
I think this is very tricky question pertaining how much a photographer paid. There aren't any standard in defininig that how much should a photographer get paid to cover events or wedding. I believe most of the forumer here treat photography as a passion, if our passion could turn into income to support & justify our expensive equipment, that's the extra.
In terms of pay, how could we define it how much we should get paid over an event or wedding? Some say RM2000 per day event, some RM600 is fine. But have any think that why this guys charge me almost triple than the other quoted me? Maybe a pro vs amateur situation. Some willing to pay thousands for an wedding event, b'cos what he get from this guys is guranteed since he is a pro, in this business blah blah blah years. The other only the amateur just into photography a year ago.
I do agree that lower charges by some photog might spoiled the market, but we have to remember 1 thing that, what he paid is what he get. The result is not guranteed.
Why not we just keep continue enjoy our passion & don't care how much we get paid for a job (those not doing photography for living), we would get better. Along the way, just build up your own portfolio & treat the pay as a token, maybe one day you are confident enough to quit your job & indulge fully on this passion. Congrat!!!!
Just my 2 cents...
In terms of pay, how could we define it how much we should get paid over an event or wedding? Some say RM2000 per day event, some RM600 is fine. But have any think that why this guys charge me almost triple than the other quoted me? Maybe a pro vs amateur situation. Some willing to pay thousands for an wedding event, b'cos what he get from this guys is guranteed since he is a pro, in this business blah blah blah years. The other only the amateur just into photography a year ago.
I do agree that lower charges by some photog might spoiled the market, but we have to remember 1 thing that, what he paid is what he get. The result is not guranteed.
Why not we just keep continue enjoy our passion & don't care how much we get paid for a job (those not doing photography for living), we would get better. Along the way, just build up your own portfolio & treat the pay as a token, maybe one day you are confident enough to quit your job & indulge fully on this passion. Congrat!!!!
Just my 2 cents...
Respected your statement here.. that is why when i said in my quote "we could not educate the party pooper spoiling the market price, but we could educate the market.
There is no right or wrong to who ever wants to charge high or low. But know this, if you do not have confident in taking wedding photos... rather then charging 300-400 (usually because amature or beginner) STOP!!! be smart .. think out of the box. Rather then do it alone.. apoint one pro for that matter or say if you want 400 .. ask the pro to pay you 400 or HELL maybe 500 and both you and the pro shooting the wedding together.. i think this way you make a lot of friends, connection and most important experiecnce.
Until one day when you decided to go all out .. at least you will understand the market price and will charge accordingly. I think this is fair for every photographers.. and i think this is the only win win situation for both beginner/amature and pro. Like what my friend told me when he was approached by a couple who told him that they can get a photogrpaher who charges 300-400 or 600..
So this is what he said "can... can .. i can charge you that price, but dont be surprise if i come to the wedding only with my compact sony powershot 5.1 mega pixel' All the time and effort of saving and working hard to get the best camera in the market and only to find out that the market price has been spoiled (unintentionaly by beginner/amature, lets put it this way) SO THINK ABOUT IT... i am not a fulltime photographer or even a partime But im a business man and i really know how this people feels.
To all my fulltime and parttime photographers .. you know who you are.. i hope you agree with me
QUOTE(eismeal @ Apr 26 2007, 12:17 PM)
QUOTE(DesertRay @ Apr 26 2007, 11:32 AM)
I think this is very tricky question pertaining how much a photographer paid. There aren't any standard in defininig that how much should a photographer get paid to cover events or wedding. I believe most of the forumer here treat photography as a passion, if our passion could turn into income to support & justify our expensive equipment, that's the extra.
In terms of pay, how could we define it how much we should get paid over an event or wedding? Some say RM2000 per day event, some RM600 is fine. But have any think that why this guys charge me almost triple than the other quoted me? Maybe a pro vs amateur situation. Some willing to pay thousands for an wedding event, b'cos what he get from this guys is guranteed since he is a pro, in this business blah blah blah years. The other only the amateur just into photography a year ago.
I do agree that lower charges by some photog might spoiled the market, but we have to remember 1 thing that, what he paid is what he get. The result is not guranteed.
Why not we just keep continue enjoy our passion & don't care how much we get paid for a job (those not doing photography for living), we would get better. Along the way, just build up your own portfolio & treat the pay as a token, maybe one day you are confident enough to quit your job & indulge fully on this passion. Congrat!!!!
Just my 2 cents...
In terms of pay, how could we define it how much we should get paid over an event or wedding? Some say RM2000 per day event, some RM600 is fine. But have any think that why this guys charge me almost triple than the other quoted me? Maybe a pro vs amateur situation. Some willing to pay thousands for an wedding event, b'cos what he get from this guys is guranteed since he is a pro, in this business blah blah blah years. The other only the amateur just into photography a year ago.
I do agree that lower charges by some photog might spoiled the market, but we have to remember 1 thing that, what he paid is what he get. The result is not guranteed.
Why not we just keep continue enjoy our passion & don't care how much we get paid for a job (those not doing photography for living), we would get better. Along the way, just build up your own portfolio & treat the pay as a token, maybe one day you are confident enough to quit your job & indulge fully on this passion. Congrat!!!!
Just my 2 cents...
Respected your statement here.. that is why when i said in my quote "we could not educate the party pooper spoiling the market price, but we could educate the market.
There is no right or wrong to who ever wants to charge high or low. But know this, if you do not have confident in taking wedding photos... rather then charging 300-400 (usually because amature or beginner) STOP!!! be smart .. think out of the box. Rather then do it alone.. apoint one pro for that matter or say if you want 400 .. ask the pro to pay you 400 or HELL maybe 500 and both you and the pro shooting the wedding together.. i think this way you make a lot of friends, connection and most important experiecnce.
Until one day when you decided to go all out .. at least you will understand the market price and will charge accordingly. I think this is fair for every photographers.. and i think this is the only win win situation for both beginner/amature and pro. Like what my friend told me when he was approached by a couple who told him that they can get a photogrpaher who charges 300-400 or 600..
So this is what he said "can... can .. i can charge you that price, but dont be surprise if i come to the wedding only with my compact sony powershot 5.1 mega pixel' All the time and effort of saving and working hard to get the best camera in the market and only to find out that the market price has been spoiled (unintentionaly by beginner/amature, lets put it this way) SO THINK ABOUT IT... i am not a fulltime photographer or even a partime But im a business man and i really know how this people feels.
To all my fulltime and parttime photographers .. you know who you are.. i hope you agree with me
good idea...use compact camera in weddings and photo shoot if they insist on paying low. I'll try that next time. Haha...
oopppsss.....i think next time have to remove the "family tree" when replying.
QUOTE(Wen Sen @ Apr 26 2007, 06:45 PM)
oopppsss.....i think next time have to remove the "family tree" when replying.
You can also press the edit button to edit mar..
"How much photogs do get paid?".... very intresting topic indeed. Some say educate the mass, some say we need to be united... some even say please do not kacau other rice bowl.. (if you are doing it as a hobby).
For me I can't educate the mass, I can be united but will others be?.... I do not want to kacau other people rice bowl. So the best answer is .... create your own market. It is the best and only way to make good money out of photography. It took me a couple of years to finally realised it... Now it is the time to reap it..
How much you asked?.... As much as you want to....
For me I can't educate the mass, I can be united but will others be?.... I do not want to kacau other people rice bowl. So the best answer is .... create your own market. It is the best and only way to make good money out of photography. It took me a couple of years to finally realised it... Now it is the time to reap it..
How much you asked?.... As much as you want to....
QUOTE
"How much photogs do get paid?"....
It all boils down to demand & supply. If you are in demand, I see no reason for you to charge peanuts. Likewise, if you are just starting off, you tend to charge lower to get your portfolio & network up. However for some reason, even the photog had established his own portfolio & network, he still charge peanuts, THAT is spoiling the market. QUOTE(ProDiGiTaL @ Apr 23 2007, 02:56 PM)
To be a successful photographer or a photojournalist, there must be a passion to it. Monetary compensation is secondary. Both of you are better suited to other careers not involving photography and keep the indulgement in the medium as a hobby lar.
Succesful photojournalists like James Nachtwey and James Stanmeyer (of National Geographic) are 48 and 80 years old bachelors respectively. They love their jobs and have the passion for photography. The reason they are not married is because they do not want to be burden with family commitments.
Both of you guys are yet to step into the world of photography as a career and already talking abt monetary compensation - both of you won't go that far lar if photography is the chosen field as a career.
Succesful photojournalists like James Nachtwey and James Stanmeyer (of National Geographic) are 48 and 80 years old bachelors respectively. They love their jobs and have the passion for photography. The reason they are not married is because they do not want to be burden with family commitments.
Both of you guys are yet to step into the world of photography as a career and already talking abt monetary compensation - both of you won't go that far lar if photography is the chosen field as a career.
i stumbled into this link posted by someone named "pro digital" and though i am not a forum user i felt it was important enough to sign up in order to correct a few assumptions. here is the miss imformation:
"Succesful photojournalists like James Nachtwey and James Stanmeyer (of National Geographic) are 48 and 80 years old bachelors respectively. They love their jobs and have the passion for photography. The reason they are not married is because they do not want to be burden with family commitments."
first, i am 43...not 80, and my friend and colleague jim is 59, not 48. most important (and why i am writing this), i am not a bachelor. i am married and have two children with a third on the way. i can only speak for myself when i say that there is no sense of being "burden with family commitments" nor has being married hamper or held me back from being a photojournalist. completely the opposite in fact. actually, it's rather astonishing for someone to not only post incorrect information about someone, but to express that someone should be limited in their photography or in their career because of having a family. yes, deciding if one wishes to be married or to start a family does mean changes will take place in their lives...very significant changes in fact. but i can share that being married (over 15 years) and having children has only helped me better understand not only the brilliance of being being alive, it has allowed me to expand in my photography. just one of the myriad examples that comes to mind is this...before having children i always understood the exceptional complex layers that take place when — for the sake of this discussion — photographing a family whose child is very sick or dying. it always has been a weight to carry. but once having children of my own, the enormity of such situations become amplified and in turn has increase in me the need to express even more deeply and with even greater understand such horrible important issues through the communication of my photography. i firmly believe one does not need to have children to understand this basic reality, but i share this as one of many reasons why — IF one chooses — to get married and start a family, i believe it often times can expand ones passions in photography and in my experience does not need to be looked upon as a burden whatsoever.
this posting is not to defend marriage or family. by no means. it's simply to correct misinformation as well as to share with others who may actually have a family or think about having a family, that the limitations are primarily based upon ones own limitations they put upon themselves.
i can also share that it helps to find the right partner who will understand the need to be on the road for long periods of time.
and age doesn't matter...though i do plan with great passion and purpose to still be on the streets when i am indeed 80 year old.
and over 70% of us at vii have children and countless other working photojournalists also have families.
in conclusion, there is no special key for success in the photojournalism world. this posting started by someone asking how much photojournalists are paid. this question is too wide open and varied to answer. but i can share that if you're passionate in your photography, if you believe deeply in stories you are working on, if you have not just a sense of purpose but also a deep commitment to storytelling and are committed to the purpose of communicating serious social issues, then with hard work, determination and passion, you will earn enough to sustain yourself as well as provide (if you choose) to have a family.
all the best, john stanmeyer
"Succesful photojournalists like James Nachtwey and James Stanmeyer (of National Geographic) are 48 and 80 years old bachelors respectively. They love their jobs and have the passion for photography. The reason they are not married is because they do not want to be burden with family commitments."
first, i am 43...not 80, and my friend and colleague jim is 59, not 48. most important (and why i am writing this), i am not a bachelor. i am married and have two children with a third on the way. i can only speak for myself when i say that there is no sense of being "burden with family commitments" nor has being married hamper or held me back from being a photojournalist. completely the opposite in fact. actually, it's rather astonishing for someone to not only post incorrect information about someone, but to express that someone should be limited in their photography or in their career because of having a family. yes, deciding if one wishes to be married or to start a family does mean changes will take place in their lives...very significant changes in fact. but i can share that being married (over 15 years) and having children has only helped me better understand not only the brilliance of being being alive, it has allowed me to expand in my photography. just one of the myriad examples that comes to mind is this...before having children i always understood the exceptional complex layers that take place when — for the sake of this discussion — photographing a family whose child is very sick or dying. it always has been a weight to carry. but once having children of my own, the enormity of such situations become amplified and in turn has increase in me the need to express even more deeply and with even greater understand such horrible important issues through the communication of my photography. i firmly believe one does not need to have children to understand this basic reality, but i share this as one of many reasons why — IF one chooses — to get married and start a family, i believe it often times can expand ones passions in photography and in my experience does not need to be looked upon as a burden whatsoever.
this posting is not to defend marriage or family. by no means. it's simply to correct misinformation as well as to share with others who may actually have a family or think about having a family, that the limitations are primarily based upon ones own limitations they put upon themselves.
i can also share that it helps to find the right partner who will understand the need to be on the road for long periods of time.
and age doesn't matter...though i do plan with great passion and purpose to still be on the streets when i am indeed 80 year old.
and over 70% of us at vii have children and countless other working photojournalists also have families.
in conclusion, there is no special key for success in the photojournalism world. this posting started by someone asking how much photojournalists are paid. this question is too wide open and varied to answer. but i can share that if you're passionate in your photography, if you believe deeply in stories you are working on, if you have not just a sense of purpose but also a deep commitment to storytelling and are committed to the purpose of communicating serious social issues, then with hard work, determination and passion, you will earn enough to sustain yourself as well as provide (if you choose) to have a family.
all the best, john stanmeyer
My humblest apology for stating the wrong age of yours here. About the "fact" about your marital status, I think I got it wrong too since the person I had in mind wasn't you but the photojournalist in question is the one from National Geographic Society, which is James L. Stanfield, when I made my initial posting here. I knew it was "Stan ... something" but ended up with Stanmeyer instead but got the first name right. My sincerest apology again.
Having said that, I am a sucker when it comes to remembering someone's age although Jim did gave a hint to me and the other local photographers when he was here for a seminar three years ago that was organised by Time magazine on photojournalism that he wasn't near retirement age yet. Over here, retirement age is 55. And I thought he should be either in late 40s or early 50s then. He sure doesn't look like a 59 year old to us.
Sama aje lah here in Singapore. Fed up. Kena cases when people ask us to quote for a job, we quote $x and then they counter offer to pay only about 10% of what we quote. So now I 'wash hand' on all those rubbish and it's either $x or NOTHING. But then, there are still tons of 'newbies who wants the exposure' who don't mind accepting the couple of hundreds for a whole day job.
He already did what he needed to do here, which is to correct some of missumptions as posted by me in one of my earlier postings and having done that, I doubt he will ever return to this forum again. He may still visit and read some of the topics here but getting involved in any will be rare or none except maybe to reply to this particular topic again.
Thanks.
Thanks again for the input. But maybe we can have your e mail adderess? I am a NG fan and i feel very proud because you can share some time with ue here.
Brother, can you show me the article on our next TT?
and WOW... the legendary John Stanmeyer of VII in this forum!What an honour. ..... I am speechless.
Brother, can you show me the article on our next TT?
surely can...after work cam biasa..
nice forum, just mirroring
Having said that, I am a sucker when it comes to remembering someone's age although Jim did gave a hint to me and the other local photographers when he was here for a seminar three years ago that was organised by Time magazine on photojournalism that he wasn't near retirement age yet. Over here, retirement age is 55. And I thought he should be either in late 40s or early 50s then. He sure doesn't look like a 59 year old to us.
Hi Stanmeyer, care to join up in this forum often? Welcome welcome!
QUOTE(ProDiGiTaL @ Apr 24 2007, 06:05 PM)
How to get paid well in a country where the majority has an el cheapo mentality towards goods and services (if can get free much better) ar?
People are known to reject those quoting RM2-3K per job wedding photogs in favour of RM300 el cheapo ones.
People are known to reject those quoting RM2-3K per job wedding photogs in favour of RM300 el cheapo ones.
Sama aje lah here in Singapore. Fed up. Kena cases when people ask us to quote for a job, we quote $x and then they counter offer to pay only about 10% of what we quote. So now I 'wash hand' on all those rubbish and it's either $x or NOTHING. But then, there are still tons of 'newbies who wants the exposure' who don't mind accepting the couple of hundreds for a whole day job.
QUOTE(adrichia @ Sep 10 2007, 02:15 PM)
Hi Stanmeyer, care to join up in this forum often? Welcome welcome!
FYI, Stanmeyer is not a regular visitor to this forum and never was. He was provided a link to this forum by either one of the senior VF members or by a representative of Time Asia in S'pore.He already did what he needed to do here, which is to correct some of missumptions as posted by me in one of my earlier postings and having done that, I doubt he will ever return to this forum again. He may still visit and read some of the topics here but getting involved in any will be rare or none except maybe to reply to this particular topic again.
thank you for the correct. it threw me a bit since i work regluraly for NGM and since you spelled my full name correctly. it also seemed only proper to correct misinformation in order to illuminate to young (and older) photojournalists that something like age or having a family has nothing whatsoever to do with being a photographer. and there is no such as retirement in photography. 55 or 60...even 100. i've lived the last 12 years in asia and there's been nothing more frustrating then to hear self limitations. there is limitless potential to grow and do amazing things with ones photography no matter where one lives or comes from...with or without a family. the key is having the faith in yourself to take that leap of faith by going out and believing in your passion and purpose. hope all is well in malaysia. all the best, john ps....next months issue of NG has the most recent story i did and in the essay are two photographs from malaysia.
QUOTE(stanmeyer @ Sep 10 2007, 05:52 PM)
thank you for the correct. it threw me a bit since i work regluraly for NGM and since you spelled my full name correctly. it also seemed only proper to correct misinformation in order to illuminate to young (and older) photojournalists that something like age or having a family has nothing whatsoever to do with being a photographer. and there is no such as retirement in photography. 55 or 60...even 100. i've lived the last 12 years in asia and there's been nothing more frustrating then to hear self limitations. there is limitless potential to grow and do amazing things with ones photography no matter where one lives or comes from...with or without a family. the key is having the faith in yourself to take that leap of faith by going out and believing in your passion and purpose. hope all is well in malaysia. all the best, john ps....next months issue of NG has the most recent story i did and in the essay are two photographs from malaysia.
Thanks.
hi again, sorry but as a journalists i like correct facts...no one provided me the link. i was searching on google on a story i did and one of the resutls was the link to the original response you made to the first persons question. i sign up to this group to make the correction posting. also, time does not have an office in singapore. the asian office is in hong kong. unfortunately you are correct, it would be very difficult for me to join up full time on this forum. i'm on the road most of the year and when home i try to spend as much time possible with my children. this industry is already weighted with too much email, digital work and whatnot that photo forums or any forum simple take up too much time. but it looks like a great place to share ideas and thoughts. if there is anything specific where i can help, best to just email me or let me know if i can be of more specific help possible then i can return in. all the best, john
QUOTE(stanmeyer @ Sep 10 2007, 06:09 PM)
hi again, sorry but as a journalists i like correct facts...no one provided me the link. i was searching on google on a story i did and one of the resutls was the link to the original response you made to the first persons question. i sign up to this group to make the correction posting. also, time does not have an office in singapore. the asian office is in hong kong. unfortunately you are correct, it would be very difficult for me to join up full time on this forum. i'm on the road most of the year and when home i try to spend as much time possible with my children. this industry is already weighted with too much email, digital work and whatnot that photo forums or any forum simple take up too much time. but it looks like a great place to share ideas and thoughts. if there is anything specific where i can help, best to just email me or let me know if i can be of more specific help possible then i can return in. all the best, john
Thanks again for the input. But maybe we can have your e mail adderess? I am a NG fan and i feel very proud because you can share some time with ue here.
Stanmeyer,
Yes, I agree that age and family have nothing whatsoever to do with being a photographer because I grew up believing in this. But the reality is (for Malaysia) many people do not understand the work nor the passion of being a photojournalist. Everyone looks toward high-paying jobs as the primary goals, the passion or interest to do the work is secondary for many. And, if one does not have a supportive spouse in this profession, there are bound to be chaos later in the family unit especially when the job takes the photographer out of the base or country for weeks or even months. I am speaking in general based on the realities of being a photojournalist in Malaysia for Malaysians. Things are different from where you come from (USA) where both photography and the arts are recognised as noble professions there as well as in Europe. I am not discouraging local shutterbugs from pursuing a career in photojournalism as long they have the passion to do so but am merely reminding them of the realities when others do not share their passion in this profession.
Oh yes, there is indeed no retirement in photography. One may reach the required retirement age (in Malaysia) as a staff photographer but as long as the passion lives on, the pursuit of photography is always there and can be resumed as either a freelance or a contract photographer.
BTW, I get weekly updates on Time magazine's cover stories from Time Asia. And was a subscriber to NGM.
Yes, I agree that age and family have nothing whatsoever to do with being a photographer because I grew up believing in this. But the reality is (for Malaysia) many people do not understand the work nor the passion of being a photojournalist. Everyone looks toward high-paying jobs as the primary goals, the passion or interest to do the work is secondary for many. And, if one does not have a supportive spouse in this profession, there are bound to be chaos later in the family unit especially when the job takes the photographer out of the base or country for weeks or even months. I am speaking in general based on the realities of being a photojournalist in Malaysia for Malaysians. Things are different from where you come from (USA) where both photography and the arts are recognised as noble professions there as well as in Europe. I am not discouraging local shutterbugs from pursuing a career in photojournalism as long they have the passion to do so but am merely reminding them of the realities when others do not share their passion in this profession.
Oh yes, there is indeed no retirement in photography. One may reach the required retirement age (in Malaysia) as a staff photographer but as long as the passion lives on, the pursuit of photography is always there and can be resumed as either a freelance or a contract photographer.
BTW, I get weekly updates on Time magazine's cover stories from Time Asia. And was a subscriber to NGM.
QUOTE(NelsonChow @ Sep 10 2007, 06:17 PM)
Thanks again for the input. But maybe we can have your e mail adderess? I am a NG fan and i feel very proud because you can share some time with ue here.
There is a feature in VF where you can send an email directly to the member you wish to correspond with, Nelson. It is more or less like the PM feature but your msg will be sent to the member's email rather than his/her PM Inbox. [/quote]
Thanks again for the input. But maybe we can have your e mail adderess? I am a NG fan and i feel very proud because you can share some time with ue here.
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stanmeyer@viiphoto.com
Thanks again for the input. But maybe we can have your e mail adderess? I am a NG fan and i feel very proud because you can share some time with ue here.
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stanmeyer@viiphoto.com
Stanmeyer,
I would like to take this opportunity to say hello and i hope that you will remember this HELLO. Welcome to velocity media i enjoy looking at your work and admire you. I know you've been to a lot of places, you've seen things that no have seen before, behind that lens.. i can only dream of a job like that. I know that your job is not for the faint of heart... for example during those Tsunami and you were there. I had a friend who was doing volunteer work there and told me that the sight was not to be seen if you are not strong. But your words of wisdom about believing in your self, having confident in what you do truly inspired me (from the way you put it)
this is what you said;
"the key is having the faith in yourself to take that leap of faith by going out and believing in your passion and purpose"
i shall keep this in mind and hey ... you shall see it on my signature below for motivational purposes... Well all the best to you my friend and good luck.
I would like to take this opportunity to say hello and i hope that you will remember this HELLO. Welcome to velocity media i enjoy looking at your work and admire you. I know you've been to a lot of places, you've seen things that no have seen before, behind that lens.. i can only dream of a job like that. I know that your job is not for the faint of heart... for example during those Tsunami and you were there. I had a friend who was doing volunteer work there and told me that the sight was not to be seen if you are not strong. But your words of wisdom about believing in your self, having confident in what you do truly inspired me (from the way you put it)
this is what you said;
"the key is having the faith in yourself to take that leap of faith by going out and believing in your passion and purpose"
i shall keep this in mind and hey ... you shall see it on my signature below for motivational purposes... Well all the best to you my friend and good luck.
hey...seems this is my first post here...still looking at the way this forum going on and learn from what u guys did with ur photos....
just to share my reading on my fav mag....Personal Money in September 07 issue..latest one..and it did touch on money wise of doing photogrphy...
n some advice from few freelance photog....dos and don'ts...though very short coverage but it gives some ideas on doing this business deeply...
just my 2 cents...
just to share my reading on my fav mag....Personal Money in September 07 issue..latest one..and it did touch on money wise of doing photogrphy...
n some advice from few freelance photog....dos and don'ts...though very short coverage but it gives some ideas on doing this business deeply...
just my 2 cents...
QUOTE(arjunawariya @ Sep 10 2007, 10:39 PM)
hey...seems this is my first post here...still looking at the way this forum going on and learn from what u guys did with ur photos....
just to share my reading on my fav mag....Personal Money in September 07 issue..latest one..and it did touch on money wise of doing photogrphy...
n some advice from few freelance photog....dos and don'ts...though very short coverage but it gives some ideas on doing this business deeply...
just my 2 cents...
just to share my reading on my fav mag....Personal Money in September 07 issue..latest one..and it did touch on money wise of doing photogrphy...
n some advice from few freelance photog....dos and don'ts...though very short coverage but it gives some ideas on doing this business deeply...
just my 2 cents...
Brother, can you show me the article on our next TT?
and WOW... the legendary John Stanmeyer of VII in this forum!What an honour. ..... I am speechless.
QUOTE(jeffisma @ Sep 11 2007, 12:16 AM)
QUOTE(arjunawariya @ Sep 10 2007, 10:39 PM)
hey...seems this is my first post here...still looking at the way this forum going on and learn from what u guys did with ur photos....
just to share my reading on my fav mag....Personal Money in September 07 issue..latest one..and it did touch on money wise of doing photogrphy...
n some advice from few freelance photog....dos and don'ts...though very short coverage but it gives some ideas on doing this business deeply...
just my 2 cents...
just to share my reading on my fav mag....Personal Money in September 07 issue..latest one..and it did touch on money wise of doing photogrphy...
n some advice from few freelance photog....dos and don'ts...though very short coverage but it gives some ideas on doing this business deeply...
just my 2 cents...
Brother, can you show me the article on our next TT?
surely can...after work cam biasa..
Wow, this thread really got interesting when you dropped by John. Thanks for sharing your insights.
wah... thanks John...
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